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Old Oct 10, 2007, 02:22 PM // 14:22   #21
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Sub Elite Silver Skills:
First off, I don't think they should be called that, because thats a dumb name, but I'm not sure what else to call them, so that'll do.

My idea is that there should be another category of skills. As everyone knows, there are Elite skills, which are bordered in gold, and normal skills, that are not bordered. I think there should be a third branch of skills, with a silver border. In this branch should be the more powerful skills, but not as good as elite skills.

For example, the loved and hated Mystic Regeneration is a bit better than the standard skills (1/4 cast, 5 regen, huge regeneration) but not as good as some elites. There would be a limit on these "Silver Skills", I think no more than two or three would be good.

I don't think that ArenaNet should make a whole new branch of skills, but turn some of the existing skills into silver skills. This would prevent straight nerfs, but would nerf certain builds. I made up some new skill icons for some of the more powerful skills that I believe could use a limit.




Having this restriction would allow certain builds to continue to work, but would nerf the most annoying builds, such as the R/N Touch Ranger, or the E/D Earth Magic Elementalist.

Please tell me what you guys think !
how about simple

"Master Skills" oO

but ya, i like the idea of implementing something between elite and nortmal skills, with like a cap of having maximal 3 of them in the bar
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Old Oct 10, 2007, 03:06 PM // 15:06   #22
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funny list

you still can double echo meteor shower.... and by the time you finish doing that all the foes are dead and you team is bashing the next mob

final thrust? wtf?! how the hell can you use it twice in a row?

whirling defense with expertise @ 12 lasts 18 seconds and it's recharge is 60, so yeah, it is VERY overpowered

mystic regen with 5 pips? please, just please check wiki before posting things like that. Oh and [skill]Gaze of contempt[/skill] = GG terratank (I know you're QQ'ing for the terratanks)

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Mystic_Regeneration

please, l2p before posting things like this

when the toucher build appeared everyone and his dog were crying for a nerf and that never happened, still, people adapted to it, now touchers are nothing but a joke, why shouldn't be the same with terratanks?

and even if your suggestion gets accepted it wouldn't work because [skill]vampiric bite[/skill] and [skill]vampiric touch[/skill] are the most used skills in the toucher build and according to your post you can allow 3 of them in a build
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Old Oct 10, 2007, 05:17 PM // 17:17   #23
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Haha, no.

Even though some elites really should be normal skills, while some normal skills really should be elite.
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Old Oct 10, 2007, 06:37 PM // 18:37   #24
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And then bronze and then copper and then... platinum?

A bit too late to add more complexity to the mechanics.
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Old Oct 10, 2007, 11:16 PM // 23:16   #25
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Originally Posted by The Raging Beauty
Sub Elite Silver Skills:
First off, I don't think they should be called that, because thats a dumb name, but I'm not sure what else to call them, so that'll do.

My idea is that there should be another category of skills. As everyone knows, there are Elite skills, which are bordered in gold, and normal skills, that are not bordered. I think there should be a third branch of skills, with a silver border. In this branch should be the more powerful skills, but not as good as elite skills.

For example, the loved and hated Mystic Regeneration is a bit better than the standard skills (1/4 cast, 5 regen, huge regeneration) but not as good as some elites. There would be a limit on these "Silver Skills", I think no more than two or three would be good.

I don't think that ArenaNet should make a whole new branch of skills, but turn some of the existing skills into silver skills. This would prevent straight nerfs, but would nerf certain builds. I made up some new skill icons for some of the more powerful skills that I believe could use a limit.




Having this restriction would allow certain builds to continue to work, but would nerf the most annoying builds, such as the R/N Touch Ranger, or the E/D Earth Magic Elementalist.

Please tell me what you guys think !
Bad Idea the skills you listed are referred to certain common builds BUT you can counter with other skills so I don't see the necessity in this, also personally I use some of the skills you listed for builds that aren't for farming.
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Old Oct 11, 2007, 02:34 AM // 02:34   #26
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The list you came up with is totally unfitting... Maybe vampiric touch people I don't favor touchers.. but still the rest are... umm

But yeah, I kind of skimmed through peoples' posts so I may repeat some thigns.

With my analysis skills this is what I understand:
-The silver skills are a little better than most standard skills. For example Blood of the Agressor vs. Dark Pact. Blood of the Agressor definately better than Dark Pact (based on my views) and therefore should earn a silver border (this is only for example, not saying it should be limited).
-With the limit of 2 silver skills at once, you can only have two skills that are bordered with silver. Example, if you were some amazing hybrid class of Mesmer/Elementalist/Ranger (this is an example, cannot happen in game). According to the wacky list, you can only have two of the three skills which are backfire, whirling defense and meteor shower. You cannot have all three on at once.
-------------------- Another example were to be say umm... Death Blossom, Unsuspected Strike and Fox Fangs were silver bordered (example purpose only, no views held on these skills), you can only have two of the three. If you want all three skills on your bar, too bad, can't do it.

I do overall understand the concept, but I personally think it's too late for such a change in the gameplay.
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Old Oct 11, 2007, 03:11 AM // 03:11   #27
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Why oh for the love of Glint WHY are people asking for nerfs to builds?????????

Have we learned nothing over the last 2+ years????????
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